gryphynkit pointed me at David Weber's
Oath of Swords. It's a fun book. I'm going to keep an eye out for the sequel. It draws on lots of the standard fantasy tropes without being a complete clone of Tolkien or D&D. I did sense some D&D influence in the metaplot, though:
Dungeon Master: Got your characters?
Player 1: I rolled up a Barbarian, and gave him a rank in Perform(Bailaika) 'cause I want to take a level of Bard later.
Player 2: I've got a Barbarian, too.
DM: [Looks at campaign notes, realizes the later adventures need a paladin] (to P2) You know, it would be really cool if you took a level of paladin.
P2: Nah, I don't like paladins.
Next session:
DM: You have strange dreams about being on a mission for the gods.
P2: I go the other way.
Next session:
DM: The head of the local temple comes on the boat and tells you you're destined to become a paladin.
P2: I throw him overboard.
Next session:
DM: A goddess visits you in the cave and says you'd make a great paladin.
P2: I tell her no.
Next session:
DM: The god of war appears and asks you to be his paladin.
P2: I tell him I don't like gods.
Next session:
DM: You're attacked by a huge monster. It's knocking down dozens of trees as it comes toward you. (To P1) Your Bardic Knowledge tells you it can only be harmed by divine magic.
P2: ALL RIGHT! I'LL BE A PALADIN!
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Date: 2007-03-29 11:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-03-29 01:10 pm (UTC)I think the second book is a bit better than the first
Paladins of unsavory parentage
Date: 2007-03-29 03:48 pm (UTC)He had special dispensation from his patron diety (obtained by his father, as Wyrnil certainly would never have thought that he was not fit to be a paladin) to get around the race requirement.
I thought it gave an interesting twist to playing a paladin, which is otherwise kind of boring ("What am I going to do today? Oh right, be lawful good. And chaste. *yawn* Maybe I'll just go back to bed.").
Re: Paladins of unsavory parentage
Date: 2007-03-29 10:07 pm (UTC)Obviously? Couldn't a fertility god(dess) have poly paladins?
Okay, there's still the orcs-are-icky problem . . .
If the D&D campaign had kept going I was thinking of running a fertility-goddess paladin as my next character (given that my current one was just not trying to stay alive).
Re: Paladins of unsavory parentage
Date: 2007-03-30 03:08 am (UTC)What did you say about my mother?
Wives of paladins don't generally do the orc-slumming thing.
I don't think a holy warrior of a fertility diety would be a paladin, per se, even if the diety in question were LG. The chastity thing would be a problem, for one. But maybe I'm too 1st ed. here, but I think they'd be a holy warrior of some other stripe.
Re: Paladins of unsavory parentage
Date: 2007-03-30 03:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-03-29 06:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-03-30 01:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-03-30 05:27 am (UTC)Do you still have copies of your old AD&D player's manual? If so, can you give the required stats for a Paladin?
If I remember them aright (and I think I do) I may have a proto-one.
Paladin stats
Date: 2007-03-30 07:02 am (UTC)STR: 12
INT: 9
WIS: 13
CON: 9
CHR: 17
And must be a LG human. Ah, the old days.
Re: Paladin stats
Date: 2007-03-31 10:05 pm (UTC)But thanks!
Re: Paladin stats
Date: 2007-04-01 07:17 pm (UTC)Re: Paladin stats
Date: 2007-04-04 01:38 am (UTC)